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meanwhile in russia, a paralympian athlete dedicated her first medal to an independent and peaceful ukraine. ukraine has won six medals in the paralympics. at 2:00 eastern, a new drone that has a stun gun attached. what would this be used for? we'll take you thrive south by southwest in texas for the answers. that's in the "newsroom" with fredricka whitfield at 2:00 eastern. i'm erin mcpike. "state of the union" with candy crowley starts right now. an evident tragedy wrapped in mystery. today two of the 239 people aboard a plane which disappeared between kuala lumpur and beijing used stolen passports to buy tickets. >> our focus right now is to find the aircraft. once we have found the aircraft, i think the investigations on any speculation on a sinister motives will assist us when we look at the data.
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>> the latest on what happened to malaysia flight 370. then, putin stays put. your move, mr. president. >> if this violation of international law continues, the resolve of the united states and our allies and the international community will remain firm. >> remaining firm. about what? we talk to tony blinken, deputy national security advisor at the white house. plus, conservative activists host what amounts to 2016's first republican cattle call. >> you want to lose elections, stand for nothing. >> it's time for a little rebellion on if battlefield of ideas. >> let's come out of this conference resolved to win elections again. >> and the winner is? this guy. >> i believe what you do on your cell phone is none of their damn business. >> our political panel reviews the rand paul verdict and weighs the implications. this is "state of the union."
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this is cnn breaking news. >> i'm candy crowley in washington with more on that missing malaysian airliner. vietnam's navy has spotted a new floating object off the country's southwest coast in the gulf of thailand. meanwhile, thailand's navy is shifting search efforts away from that region and instead is focusing on whether the plane might have gone down near thailand's border. reuters reports the plane that i have disintegrated in midair. andrew stevens joins me from beijing. we get lots of conflicting reports, lots of water out there. what does it tell you about the search that we have yet to definitively find any part of that plane? >> reporter: it's an extraordinary story, candy, more than two days now. we don't have a clear picture where the plane might have gone down.
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we've been talking act the two fuel slicks they are testing conducting on that field to find out whether it came from plane or whether it's jet gas and also new developments about the plane that possibly may have turned around. now, there is radar tracking the world malaysian air force chief said that there was a possibility that the plane had turned around. he gave no further indication. certainly there was nothing from the plane itself, the pilots or the automatic sensors from on the plane which feed regularly back to the airline to suggest that the plane was turning around or the pilots had made that decision. so after another 24 hours, frustratingly short on real facts here at the moment. but i can say is the actual search itself is expanding because of that potential turnaround by the plane. there's now some 40 vessels involved from several countries now, 22 claims the u.s. is involved. it's sending the longoria range orion p-3 aircraft. they can be in the air 12 hours
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looking. so at the moment, candy, we're no further forward than we were this time 24 hours ago. >> one of the curious things we know is that two passengers bought their tickets with passports that were stolen. these passport apparently had been reported stolen and interpol flagged them. so the question is how do you get a ticket on a plane with a passport that's been flagged as stolen by interpol? >> reporter: that is rapidly becoming a big question. interpol said they put that on their own database. the fact that these two passports had, indeed, been stolen. but that information never got to immigration officials at malaysia's international airport in kuala lumpur, and no one yet is saying why that didn't happen. a lot of very big questions there. what we do know about these two passports, they were used -- the people who used them, they bought the tickets virtually
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simultaneously in bangkok on a china southern airlines flight. now, this is a co-chair with malaysian. so these two people must have known each other because it was a simultaneous buy virtually. their flight, the route is rather interesting, the flight was going to take them from kuala lumpur to beijing and then on to amsterdam and from there there were two further flights. the person holding the australian passport was going one place and the italian the other. you don't need a chinese visa to go through beijing, so beijing could have been their final destination but they wouldn't have had to apply for a visa. but, again, more questions than answers on that particular part of this story as well. >> hopefully if they find that plane there will be some answers on board of course in those recording data blocks. thanks so much, andrew stevens in beijing. we appreciate it. joined now on the phone by
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cnn aviation expert richard quest. richard, i am intrigued by the notion that's now popping up in various stories that this plane might have and could have disintegrated in air at 35,000 feet. >> candy, pretty much from the moment this story began, those who cover those sort of things pretty much say this was a very real possibility. and the reason for that is the lack of information from the aircraft itself. no mayday warning, no call from the cockpit. but also no telemetry being sent automatically by the aircraft. these planes are built and structured so they're constantly sending information to air traffic control, radar, and to the airline itself for maintenance. the complete lack of information, even on this term,
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the malaysian royal air force is talking about, this rumor that the plane or that radar track that the plane turned around, that should have been telegraphed out by the plane. and so what's coming to -- what people are starting to come to the conclusion is that whatever happened was very dramatic and very drastic and could have been a complete breakup of the aircraft. >> and it could have been, correct me if i'm wrong, the result of either some catastrophic failure of the plane itself or it could have been something man made. it could have been a bomb or something like that. >> yes. i mean, we shouldn't be necessarily embarrassed by putting the word bomb on the table now because that is in the milieu. you've even got the ceo of malaysia airlines being asked about that. you've got people now quite openly speculating whether or not this could have been a device of some sort. we're a very long way from making any further continue
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klugs on that, but the evidence of what we know so far is such, this plane stopped transmitting any information. it disappeared. it's clearly in many pieces. and the only sort of force that does that on an aircraft is dramatic and it is very, very catastrophic, because what it also has to do, candy, it has to sever all electrics. it has to sever the airframe. it has to prevent -- even with air france 447 a few years ago the plane continues to send out data right the way down to the ocean -- to when it went into the ocean. >> richard quest, thanks so much for your knowledge on this. and you're right, we don't even know what happened to the plane much less what made that happen. so lots and lots of questions as we've been saying. the u.s. military has joined the search effort looking for that missing passenger jet or pieces of it.
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cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins me on the phone. barbara, it seems to me in cases like this the u.s. does have things to offer that other countries in this case, thailand and vietnam, may not have. in this case, what kind of equipment is this that? >> well, candy, what you're seeing in this as you said maritime part of the world is everybody join in, so the u.s. navy has sent that p-3 orion aircraft. it can stay up for hours, which some smaller militaries may not have those kind of assets. it has sonar. it can ping the ocean essentially and look for any indicators of objects under the surface. it can conduct aerial surveillance over wide areas. it's coming out of okinawa. there is another warship essentially, the "uss pinkney," it's got helicopters on its deck, it is in the gulf of thailand right now looking at the last known communications and radar transmissions from the
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aircraft. they're conducting surveillance. all of that can move around if the search area changes. and in a sign that this could go on for some time, the u.s. also sending a supply ship for its own assets and possibly to help out other countries in the region who are also searching. one of the things we don't know yet that we're asking is there are u.s. intelligence satellites that survey the earth all the time, 24/7, and they look for the infrared signature, the heat signature. usually it's from a missile launch. they're looking for missile launches around the world that could threaten the united states. but we're asking it seems that those satellites might, might have seen a heat signature from a catastrophic event such as this. that's the question we're asking. and we'll be back when we know the answer to that one. but that might be a clue as well
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if the u.s. military saw some type of heat generated by some type of explosion. >> barbara starr. so many people including the u.s. military now looking for some kind of explanation for that missing plane. barbara starr at the pentagon, thank you so much. >> sure. obama is spending the weekend with his family in key largo, florida, and that's where we find his deputy national security advisor tony blinken. tony, thank you for joining us. i want to start out by a breaking news story, the malaysian aircraft. two of the passengers were apparently using passports from different countries, both of them stolen many months ago in southeast asia. we are also learning that their tickets appear to have been bought together. does this raise alarm bells in terms of terrorism? >> candy, first of all, our
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hearts go out to the people who have lost loved ones in this accident. there were three american citizens on-board, many chinese, many taiwanese. it is too soon to tell what happened, why it happened, but what we've done is this -- we've made available the fbi, the national transportation safety board and other experts to aid in the investigation to figure out what happened but right now it is just too early to tell what the cause was. i've seen these reports about the passports. we're looking into that but we don't have anything that we can confirm at this point. >> sure. as the deputy national security advisor though, is there something in that story, whether you can confirm it or not -- cnn certainly is reporting it, as are many others. is there something in that raises alarm bells to you? >> well, look. the reports certainly raise questions an concerns and that's exactly why we're looking into them. but right now it would be premature to speculate.
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back to our breaking news. bob francis is with me, the former vice chairman of the ntsb, also with the cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes. so we're getting lots of nothing so far because they haven't found a piece of the wreckage, for some reason they believe they believe it's the oil slick. if you were looking at this now, bob, what is your gut feeling about what the next most important step is? >> i think the most important step, as with most major accidents, is to try to get the recorders off the airplane. >> off the bottom of the -- >> wherever they are. hopefully it isn't too deep where the aircraft is, and they'll be able to go down and get them fairly quickly.
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>> and is it possible for one of those data boxes or all the data boxes to disintegrate? if a plane disintegrated at 35,000 feet, would the data boxes go with it? >> i've never heard of that having happened in my time doing accident investigation, which is a fair amount of time. those things are tough cookies. >> it's possible or probable they're someplace and the question is whether they're too deep. >> yes. i can't believe that they're too deep. the problem will be if they're really deep it involves a lot more expense, a lot more time to get them as with the air transfer quarters. >> got you. tom, i'm fascinated by these stolen passports that were used by two passengers. you're now hearing word of maybe some other stolen passports on
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there. is it unusual, though, for people to have a stolen passport or a false passport, either they're trafficking or they're trying to escape from someplace? it's not necessarily a sign that oh my goodness this is a terrorist plot. >> no. that's true. they could be garden-variety criminals, drug traffickers or people smugglers or fraudsters trying to move around without being identified or detected. in this case, you have the passports not being screened on the departure end by malaysia or on the arrival. and even as the passenger manifest is sent to the chinese authorities to check that against interpol's databases, and those checks were not conducted so these individuals were able to use passports that have been reported stolen. now, i understand that there's a third passport that's a chinese passport from an individual with an address listed in china in
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fujin province, that that is also false but we don't know if it's counterfeit or other issues. there are many issues of people using fraudulent documents to travel. >> what is the point of interpol? i don't understand. if you've got this documentation of passports that have been stolen, what's the point if no one's looking at it? >> well, it is. it's a hard point if no one's looking at it, but the u.s. is looking at it, many countries are. a lot more countries are looking at the inbound, when someone comes in through passport control. so in the u.s., for example, when a passport is scanned upon entry by anyone it's automatically making an inquiry with u.s. databases and terrorist watch lists and all of that and also in lyon with the lost and stolen document files. those checks are being done. they're not routinely being done by many countries on the outbound flights but a lot of countries just say, bye, have a nice trip. >> bye-bye. >> exactly. bob, what are the chances we
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might never know what happened? >> remote in the extreme. i mean, how extreme is extreme? >> pretty extreme. you think we will -- because there seems to be a lot of mystery about this because it just disappeared off radar, stopped sending any kind of signal. explain to me how they do know, then, or believe the plane actually turned around. >> i don't know the answer to that. unless they've gotten some -- there's a transponder on the airplane and radars interrogate the transponders. if the transponder on the aircraft was working and if radar -- i assume what happened is radar picked up those signals and found that the aircraft was going into a turn or had gone into a turn. >> any guesses at this point? like if you look and say i've seen this before and this is
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likely to turn out this way? or is this so many unknowns at this point? >> it's so many unknowns. and i think it's almost irresponsible to speculate, particularly when you know that the answer is there and the recorders are there. and i think that they're going to have the answer or at least they're going to be -- if it were a criminal act of some sort, they're going to be able to narrow it down to a position where the folks in the law enforcement community are going to be able to figure out. >> and tom, just quickly, the same for whether this was a manmade disaster, some sort of terrorist thing, just the mere existence of people traveling on stolen passports as you said is not common place, at least common enough to say they could be just really unlucky criminals. >> could be. exactly. and bob is correct. we shouldn't be speculating in the media or in the public about all the possible acts.
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however, it would be equally irresponsible for the authorities to not consider the possibilities and immediately and intensively investigate the possibilities that this is a manmade disaster. that has to be looked at even now, looking at the flight manifests and all the other information surrounding this flight, the pilots, you know, anything known about their mental conditions, were there problems, was anything else that could come up has to be looked at from the beginning. >> so -- and they're just beginning. >> just beginning. >> and the parallel investigative thing was really exercised as much as any investigation in the world with twa, where the ntsb and his former colleague, jim hallstrom and i, worked for weeks together before a determination was made, whether it was a criminal act or an accident. >> tom fuentes, bob francis, thank you both very much for being with us and sharing your
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welcome back. we are tracking that other big story, the unrest in the ukraine and the kind of east/west showdown over crimea. to kiev and cnn's michael holmes. president vladimir putin has been working the phones seems like every day we get another press release of who the president's been talking to. now we're getting russian press releases, as it were, about phone calls to david cameron in brittany and in germany angela merkel. is this beginning of a solution or is this a pr stunt? >> reporter: well, think they're getting out ahead the same as everyone else does. we've heard david cameron and others put out releases when they've had words with vladimir putin. this time we're seeing the kremlin get out first with their version of how it all went. he spoke with angela merkel,
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david cameron, the british prime minister, and essentially the line after he made it clear to both that the steps being taken by crimea's authorities are in his view based on international law and in the world's of the kremlin's statement aimed at procuring the le jgitimate interest of the population. but the tensions continue. this afternoon several thousand russian activists descended on a government building in eastern ukraine, not in crimea, took over the building. they did leave after raising the russian flag. but, you know, curiously and perhaps worringly they, too, were calling for their referendum on whether they could join russia as well. that's not in crimea. that's in the east of the country. candy? >> well, isn't that the big fear that in some of these areas where there is a large russian ethnic population that whatever crimea does, if it should uphold this vote about annexing itself
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to russia or becoming independent or whatever, that this is -- sort of encourages with other huge population of russian ethnics? >> reporter: that is, and that is a concern. you know, it was interesting, we were talking today with some ethnic russians who are here in kiev, and they were saying, you know, the majority -- or not all ethnic russians want to turn to russia. you know, a lot of them want to stay part of ukraine, but certainly in crimea it would appear that those ethnic russians, there's something like 60% of the population, would probably result in a yes vote. elsewhere in the country, they may not have the numbers to do that. we've also seen a lot of pro-ukraine protests turn out in those parts of the country. and in fact right behind me now, idon't know if you can hear it, it's pretty noisy in independence square in kiev, an event to mark the anniversary of the birth of the revered poet turned into a peace rally.
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there's been prayers and speeches, dozens of international flags down there. it's been going on for hours now. in fact, one of the speakers was the russian oligarch who was once the richest man in russia until he spent ten years in jail in russia. and he came out throwing his support behind these protesters here. candy? >> michael holmes, always something going on in kiev. we are glad you are there for us. thanks so much. earlier i spoke with obama's deputy national security advisor. more now with tony blinken. it seems to me that for more than a week now, what we have is putin staying put and the president and the west saying you can't take over crimea, you need to leave crimea, and he hasn't budged. is there anything that has changed so far as you can tell under western pressure? >> oh, i think a lot's changed. first of all, the president has mobilized the international community in support of ukraine to isolate russia for its
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actions in ukraine and to re-assure our allies in part an that's having a clear effect. in terms of the support for ukraine, we've mobilized the international community to build an economic support package, we put in short-term assistance of our own and we hope congress will pass the loan guarantee that we proposed. international community, the european partners, have done the same. with regard to russia, in coordination with our allies we've imposed significant sanctions on russia and that's already exerting a cost. we've seen russian markets go down substantially. the ruble go down and investors sitting on the fence. so russia is paying a price for this. the question now is whether they will take the off-ramp that the president and our partners around europe have proposed. there is a way out of this that can take into account russia's interests an concerns but restores ukraine's sovereignty. that what we're working on. >> but at the moment do you see signs that any of that has affected putin's mindset? i know the president's had a lengthy phone call recently with him and from outside appearances, at any rate, it looks as though putin has made
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the decision that crimea is more important to him than anything the west might be able to do economically. >> it's not a done deal. i think the door is clearly open to resolving this diplomatically. secretary kerry is engaged with his russian counterpart, foreign minister lavrov. the president can continue to choose this path, resulting in increasing costs and undermining russia's power and influence. or again, there is a very clear off-ramp that would involve getting international inspectors in to verify the concerns about the treatment of ethnic minorities, russia and ukraine talking directly, and tracking toward elections on may 25th. to the extent russia has so-called concerns about the legitimacy of the government, the solution is so-called elections. they are encouraged to make the
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right choice. >> the question is, and then what? because he doesn't seem so far to be susceptible to this kind of strong-arming. we've heard secretary kerry apparently tell his counterpart in russia that diplomatic window would close if you move to annex crimea, well, what if he does? then what? when a diplomatic window is closed, what is there left to do that's -- that is real? >> well, first of all, if there is an annexation of crimea, if there is a referendum that moves crimea from ukraine to russia we won't recognize it, nor will most of the world. second, the pressure we already exerted in coordination with our partners and allies will go up. the president made it clear in announcing our sanctions, as did the europeans the other day, that this was a first step. we put in place a very flexible
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and very tough mechanism to increase pressure and sanctions depending on events and what happens going forward. and so if russia makes the wrong choice going forward, we have the ability to exert significant pressure on russia, as do our partners. but again, the hope is that russia won't make that choice. there is a way to resolve this in a way that takes into account russia's concerns but also critically restores ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. >> there is some discussion and some disagreement, is there not, in the west among western european nations and the u.s. as to how far to take those sanctions, is there not? i mean certainly a lot of these european countries depend heavily on russian money that comes in for a variety of reasons, not to mention russian gas. so is there a unanimity among all european nations that might be involved in further sanctions? >> in fact there is tremendous coordination and solidarity led by the president.
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this weekend he was on the phone with chancellor merkel of germany, president hollande of france, prime minister cameron of britain, the italian prime minister, the three baltic leaders from lithuania, estonia and latvia. there is tremendous solidarity going on both what we've done to date and what we need to do if russia continues on the course it is on. i think you would see if there are further steps in the direction of annexing crimea a very strong coordinated international response. >> i want to read you something from senator chris koontz, a democrat from delaware. not sure if you know him or not but nonetheless he's a democrat, and here's what he had to say about the situation. "as putin takes increasingly aggressive steps by deploying troops and armored carriers an overflights of jets in crimea, in ukrainian territory, the u.s. needs to be thoughtful, less rhetoric, more action. i, frankly, think this is partly a result of our perceived weakness because of our actions
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in syria." this is something, that last part particularly, that critics have suggested across the board. certainly a lot of republicans, but as i mentioned senator coons is a democrat saying that putin sensed weakness in the president. your reaction. >> i think putin is seeing exactly the opposite. what putin is seeing is the president mobilizing the entire international community and russia is paying a clear cost for that. that's what putin is seeing. putin is not acting out of a position of strength. he's acting out of a position of weakness. understand what's happened here. this has gone on for several months. a country that russians supporting and is taking aggressive action against its own people has left. a government that's more oriented toward the west has come in and that's what putin was afraid of ,and as a result what we've seen now is the international community mobilized against the actions he's taken as a result of the
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president's leadership. so i think what you're seeing is the united states leading in this effort and the president doing the leading. the notion that this is somehow a result of syria makes very little sense to me. this is about ukraine. this is about -- >> the suggestion is that the president looked weak in syria, he's looked weak in other places and putin took advantage of that. >> well, history really doesn't bear that out. russians went into georgia an took over territories that under the bush administration when there were hundreds of thousands of american troops deployed in iraq and afghanistan. and of course, that didn't stop the russians from going in. that's because this is not about what we do or we say in the first instance. it is about russia and its perceived interests. we have made very clear now that there is a choice that russia has to make and a cost it will pay if it continues down this path. i think the impact again of what we've already done in terms of the pressure on russia has been significant.
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it will grow stronger. but it is also the responsible thing to do to figure out if we can resolve this in a diplomatic way and that's why we've offered a path forward that would take into account russia's concerns. we've long said that we respect and understand its ties to ukraine but it cannot change the status quo through the use force. >> tony blinken, deputy security advisor to the president, thanks so much. >> thanks very much for having me, candy. >> when we return, the conservatives rally and furnish. honestly? i wanted a smartphone that shoots great video. so i got the new nokia lumia icon. it's got 1080p video, three times zoom, and a twenty-megapixel sensor. it's got the brightest display, so i can see what i'm shooting -- even outdoors, and 4 mics that capture incredible sound. plus, it has apps like vine -- and free cloud storage. my new lumia icon is so great, even our wipeouts look amazing. ♪ honestly, i want to see you be brave ♪
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rand paul won the straw poll. michele bachmann won the straw poll in iowa so we can only take these things so far. >> it's actually a very young audience. when rand paul came in to speak with the crowd, he's sort of selling a new libertarian-infused brand of conservativism that a lot of folks have said, is that the future of the republican party as it tries to reach out to a new generation? >> what do you think? rand paul did -- i mean, and they're good organizers even when they're not organizing. there was a real feel that if you can call it a grassroots, this admiration for rand paul was genuine. it wasn't stirred up by busloads of people he brought in. >> no. everyone knew he was going to win. kirsten's right.
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it's activists he inherit fwrd his dad's army, but he ran going away with a 20-point lead. he is going to i think be a problem in the primary process for the establishment, which has decided the nomination for almost 30 years going back now actually ends up with another candidate, rand paul is not going to be ron paul. he is going to be a serious problem. he is running for president. he knows exactly how to go after the new constituencies. he's talking to black audiences, young people. he said in the last 36 hour, i don't attack other people, which is a direct reference to senator ted cruz, who attacks other republicans. he is not going to go silently into the night. i think when you see the primary process unfold he's going to be a real problem and a real presence. >> when he said i don't attack other people but he's been attacking bill clinton, calling him everything but -- >> right. >> so he did not attack ted cruz, who attacked probably one
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of the heroes of the republican party, hero of conservativism, former senator bob dole, who is in his 90s and above politics, but, you know, i think cpac is catnip for conservatives, the shock troops, the young, outraged, you know, group of organizers that i do believe will have an outsider's role this time around in the 2016 primary contest. ? and i didn't get this feeling of outrage so much as excitement about rand paul. he tapped into the phone thing like, you know, none of their dang business who i'm calling and what time and for how long. but i think that he's a surprising guy and that that's appealing to young voters, that he's not just, you know, here i am, here's the republican check, check, check because sometimes he's over here as he was with, for instance, one of the things we -- with felons and after they've served their time and restored their voting rights, which is not exactly a
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republican talking point. >> i think being a little bit out of the norm is an okay thing these days especially when it comes to, you know, the fact that the republican party doesn't have a clear front-runner for 2016. i mean, as the party that tends to nominate the next guy in line, there is no next guy in line. so i think being a little bit different kind of lends you this level of authenticity. i think that same thing benefits chris christie as well, that sense that he's not afraid to be a little different than your average republican and i think that will be appealing to young voters and to a broader republican primary electorate as it looks toward the next few years. >> let me move you to another subject that caught my ear. and that was with the ukraine and putin, all week long we've heard the rhetoric ratchetting up from the president, you can't say stai there, you have to leave, you have to talk to the ukrainians and putin seems absolutely immune from western pressure. then we began to hear the republicans, here's a couple of
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them starting with senator graham. >> we have a weak and indecisive president that invites aggression. >> this is the ultimate result of a feckless foreign policy where nobody believes in america's strength anymore. >> i have to say there have been a couple of democrats along the way that said, yeah, i think, you know, putin's detecting weakness. is this a winning political argument for republicans who seem to be kind of changing their approach to foreign policy? >> well, there's a big fight between the interventionist wing of the republican party and the isolationist wing of the republican party. i think that was on display also during the cpac conference. some inside the republican party, they're hawkish, they believe our first response to any kind of international tragedy is to use military force. when i think there are others who believe that we should wait and see if we can broaden and bring about international coalition before we respond. >> i disagree that that's how
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the hawks approach things necessarily. i don't think there's anybody out there calling for boots on the ground in crimea right now. but the question is do you try to demonstrate strength so you never have to use it in the first place? there's a sense -- and i think this is what republicans are trying to criticize that a demonstration of weakness before is what has allowed putin to think it's okay for him to get away with this. >> what complicates the matter is is the party is completely divided on national security and foreign policy issues so, while former vice president dick cheney saying this morning he would restore the missile defense shield in poland an other eastern european nation, does that mean the so-called new leaders of the republican party will follow? maybe not. senator graham and mccain are the only voices who are hawks on the party left, who are making the case for a robust internationalist posture. and at this point senator marco rubio is trying to be one of them. but what i think is you look at senator rand paul, who just ten days ago said russia needs to be respected, this is going to cause confusion if they make it
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thank you for watching "state of the union." i'm candy crowley in washington. if you missed any part of today's show, find us on itunes. just search "state of the union." "fareed zakaria: gps" is next after a check of the headlines. >> hello, everyone. i'm fredricka whitfield live at the cnn headquarters in atlanta with a check of our top stories. a vietnamese rescue aircraft has spotted a floating object that could possibly be debris from that malaysian jetliner that disappeared over the south china sea about 48 hours ago now. three search boats have been deployed to the area to investigate. we're also learning more about tickets bought by two passengers on board the flight who were traveling on stolen passports. the passports were stolen in thailand, and the tickets were apparently bought together. ukraine's sprinterim prime
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minister flies to the u.s. this week to meet with president obama. that will be just a few days before crimea votes on whether it will become part of russia. the prime minister has called it an illegitimate decision, and today russian president vladimir putin spoke about ukraine and that upcoming vote with the british prime minister and the german chancellor. meanwhile, in russia a ukrainian paralympic athlete dedicated her first medal to an independent and peaceful ukraine. ukraine has won six medals in the paralympics so far. next hour in the "cnn newsroom," the latest on the search for that missing malaysian plane, and we'll talk live with the former transportation department's inspector general who has investigated several crashes over the years. i'm fredricka whitfield. see you at 2:00 eastern time. "fareed zakaria: gps" stars right now.
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>> this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you live from new york today. we'll start the show with the continuing crisis with russia. i will ask president obama's former national security adviser tom donilon what the president's options are at this hour. and to understand crimea, you have to understand its history and put the current crisis in context. we will do just that with a terrific panel. also, israel's prime minister netanyahu finally came out for secretary of state john kerry's middle east peace efforts this week. but he faces intense opposition within his own country. in fact, within his own cabinet. i will talk to his economics minister, naftali bennett, who tells us why his boss is wrong.